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WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:07 pm 
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Well this is an event I'm off to film so I'll see if I can get some clips uploaded through the event.



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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:32 am 
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Sigh. 



Same herky jerky commentary. 



No mention at all about Block crashing out on day 1. 



The current setup for making this program just doesn't seem to work.  There is a big difference between what Simon sees and when his audio get's recorded.  It's like he is watching a stream of the footage remotely then his audio goes back to the source of the stream and is recorded but by the time it gets there it's 5 seconds behind.  I know Simon has no idea when the footage is going to change to a new driver (why this is I don't know but it's pretty obvious)  so I get there will be a little delay before he catches up but the amount of time for him to shift to the next driver plus the delay caused by the way the audio is recorded is PAINFUL.  Any time there is a big crash or something the reaction is always far behind the the visual event too.



Why is this not fixable?  Just start Simon's track 5 (or whatever the delay is) seconds earlier after the audio is recorded and they would be synched better.



Stop the whole Simon doing the audio track at one continuos go and let him break it down into multiple takes and maybe give him some time codes for driver changes so he knows what is coming.  I hope that the current show is not already doing this and still flows this bad.



I thought New Zealand was alright but now I am realizing it was just the rally was really exciting and now in Portugal the coverage is right back to mostly blah.  No excuse for the half as long North One show to be so much more informative and so much easier to follow the progress of the rally.



Never thought I could get too much WRC coverage but I am done with Motors I think.  I either watch it first and then realize how much info I missed when I watch the other shows or watch it 2nd or 3rd and struggle to make my way through it because the footage of a camera on the cage looking forward with 15% of the screen showing a tiny slit of mostly undecipherable blur is not really interesting.



Needless parting shot:  



Watched rallycross footage from Knockhill I think it was and they left one of the cameras in the wrong aspect ratio.  So instead of just leaving it to maintain the correct image they streched out the horizontal to fill the screen.  So for the whole race one camera shot turned the cars into distorted carnival mirror cars then back to the normal camera then back to the f'ed camara over and over again.  Amatuer hour hackery.



Gave it a shot and waited but I'm done with the whole shebang I'm afraid. 



I'm sure you are trying but you guys need to get some interns or pay people that know what the hell they are doing to vastly improve the quality of your product sooner rather then later.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:06 am 
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I have to agree with RallyTaco. The coverage is awful. What frustrated me the most about Rally Portugal is whomever edited Loeb's footage from the car left it on the driver's side mirror for most of it. In a dry gravel rally that means that you're watching dust most of the time. I felt like washing my face and glugging a gallon of water after that experience.



What's wrong with the in-car cameras? They show you the road and what the driver and co-driver are doing in the car which is imminently more interesting than the dusty mishap that was sent to broadcast. You guys have a golden opportunity to have access to such great coverage and you put the editor-equivalent of Homer Simpson at the controls.



Please find someone that knows what they're doing. And when you interview them, make sure they know what rally is. It might be useful if they actually have a passion for the sport. Just a thought...



Otherwise, stick a two year old in the editor's booth and let them wander over the controls - it would still be more entertaining than what we got last weekend.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:21 pm 
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Jkira wrote:



Otherwise, stick a two year old in the editor's booth and let them wander over the controls - it would still be more entertaining than what we got last weekend.





Funny and closer to the truth than not.



I know Motors doesn't mount the cameras but I don't give a flying F in the end.  If you have to mount the camera deep inside the interior on the cage don't use a low magnification wide angle lens.  If you just optically zoom the image from the same mounting posistion you could get 3/4 of the screen actually showing the damned road with some detail and not some pinhole view of the outside with a complete high def shot of a static car interior.  I can figure this out playing with ebay lipstick cams and watching youtube videos of rally why the hell doesn't Motors demand it or North one provide it?



Wide angle fender shots are the equivilent to fast food or tacky professional porn.  They make for a flashy no substance activity that provides a short term rush that dissloves into nothingness and boredom after only a few moments because the shallowness comes through and you are left with nothing to engage you. :)



Seriously though you get no sense of pace or speed or driving technique from those shots.  If Motors was serious about apealing to the "serious" fans (even within there tragically wrong theory that fans want mostly on board camera shots) they would get rid of, or at least severely limit,  the Mickey Mouse wide angle shots that are useless in conveying any real information.  Anyone of any skill level could be driving a car with that stupid fender cam and it would be hard to tell the difference from the viewers perspective.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:59 pm 
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Do it like Eurosport with IRC. This is perfect. It's  really not that difficult.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:33 pm 
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Well I've just watched day 1 and you guys have gone from too much commentary to NONE?! I must admit I fell asleep and woke up 44 minutes into the program and heard no commentary for the rest of day 1.



HOW CAN YOU GET IT SO WRONG?


 The sooner Eurosport get the rights back the better. I will not be watching days 2 or 3. This is awful.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:33 am 
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Hello all,



After having some media problems my WRC Portugal video should be online tonight so please check my YouTube channel or subscribe!


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:33 pm 
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Okay all media issues sorted out so here is my work from Portugal



WRC Portugal 2010 - Feature Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyVAEUjh7Ko



WRC Portugal 2010 - Sebastien Ogier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTVg7rRnT8



WRC Portugal 2010 - Mikko Hironven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyVXzT2RzDg



Let me know what you think.


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Re: WRC Portugal

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:19 pm 
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Just got around to watching the Portugal coverage. Just not good enough. I'm tired of wasting my metaphorical breath going on about it.


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