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London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:39 pm 
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TBH it all a load of rubbish as the area that the congestion charge covers isnt really that big. I remember going to london for the interview for my current job and it was about 100yds from leicester sq. When i told they guy i was gonna go down in the car (went on train) he said the only car park within half a mile was £40 a day and it only had one price no matter how long you was there in 24 hours.

And in that article is one really good point "a car that covers under 5000 miles a year" then they dont really need the car so tbh they just moaning for the sake of moaning. With the tube in london as good as it is there is no need for alot of people to have a car.

I live 10 miles from manchester and the congestion charge might be brought in here soon but for us here it alot more of an issue as for me to get to the centre of manchester it either 45mins in rush hour or take a bus that takes close to 2 hours or walk 40 mins to the nearest train station and take the 30 mins train ride to me the congestion charge in london isnt that bad as when i go to london i never go anywhere near the zone as it easier/cheaper to park on the outskirts and get the tube in.

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:48 pm 
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I see what your saying Mikeward but here in Leeds it's different as the Bus service is useless (not just in one part of Leeds but all of it)
The roads have too many traffic lights on them for so called bus right of way then the rush hour is rediculous but despite this i still beat the bus to work in my car so even if the congeston charge was brought in i carn't see it making any difference as people will still use their cars instead of the bus.
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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:35 pm 
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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:47 pm 
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At work today we were on about a cars emmision levels i don't know if any of you on here understand the readings on MOT emmision levels but to put it simply a car runs with 14 parts air to 1 part fuel which is Lambda reading of 1.000 that is as efficiant that a car can run at with a CO level which the MAX. is 0.3 which is simply nothing it's breatherble and to someone who knows this it's ludicrous that some arse in a office deems this to be lathal to the enviroment well it's just not so why charge so much for 'Gas Gusslers' that team just doesn't exist as every car has a limit to it's emmisons which is the levels i've stated so no matter wether it's a Smart car or a Merc S430 V8 the emmisions are exactly the same so i just carn't see the blokes thinking on this. he's an idiot.


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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:10 pm 
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"cal" wrote:
I see what your saying Mikeward but here in Leeds it's different as the Bus service is useless (not just in one part of Leeds but all of it)
The roads have too many traffic lights on them for so called bus right of way then the rush hour is rediculous but despite this i still beat the bus to work in my car so even if the congeston charge was brought in i carn't see it making any difference as people will still use their cars instead of the bus.
RANT OVER!


Dont think you see what i am saying cal what i am saying is in london there is good enough transport for people to not need to use a car in the city centre. I know when i go down i usually stop outside the centre and jump on the underground. Although like you say some other cities that are thinking of bringing it in simply havent got adequate transport for the city centre.


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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:15 pm 
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Using the car into London is very effective where I live, by far the quickest way to get there. :8

Regarding Londoners, it really is there personal choice - some may dislike public transport and perfer taking their car to make journeys around London to get to specific destinations. London residents should be able to make a choice how they travel around London, charging them lots just because public transport is often very efficient isn't a particularly good plan to me.

And of course, many people live in other parts of the UK but work in London, and travel by car. I know somebody who commutes into central London often and lives in Bristol, and he finds it cheaper and quicker to take the car than take the train at the moment. So this proposed charge affects many people not just Londoners, and it will effect him too.

Ken just dislikes cars, thats why he feels the need to make daft charges for motorists who enter London. Porsche have discovered that London's CO2 will be cut by just 000.6 % per year if this charge is brought in, therefore Ken's argument falls completely flat on its face because he claims the charge will "significantly" cut CO2 emissions.

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:39 pm 
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Does that mean PORSCHE will produce a DIESEL 911

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:37 pm 
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"chris wadsworth" wrote:
Does that mean PORSCHE will produce a DIESEL 911


Nope because it would be a disaster, Porsche instead are going to fight their case and quite rightly.

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:48 pm 
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"Sav" wrote:
"chris wadsworth" wrote:
Does that mean PORSCHE will produce a DIESEL 911


Nope because it would be a disaster, Porsche instead are going to fight their case and quite rightly.
I do hope they win !!!!for everybody

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:26 am 
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Porsche vs London mayor: latest
'The new £25 charge will have no meaningful impact on congestion and TfL's own figures show the anticipated CO2 emissions savings in a year could be equivalent to less than four hours of emissions from Heathrow. All it will do is unfairly hit large numbers of drivers in London and undermine London's attractiveness as a place to do business. We are therefore formally applying for judicial review to challenge the mayor's proposals and we are confident we have a strong case.'

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Green-Cars ... O2-claims/

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Re: London Congestion Charge

PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:46 am 
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It was no idle threat, Papers Lodged by Porsche.
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